Josh Brown likes the challenge of longer extra points

Posted Aug 8, 2014

Kicker Josh Brown comments on the longer extra points rule in place for the first two weeks of preaseason

The NFL has temporarily made Josh Brown’s job harder, and he’s all for it.

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In the Hall of Fame Game last week, Brown kicked two extra points after the ball was spotted at the 15-yard line. Through the third week of preseason play, the league has moved the line of scrimmage for PATs back 13 yards from its usual spot. That has turned a 20-yard virtually automatic kick into a 33-yarder. That is still easy for an NFL kicker, but it could potentially add decision-making and intrigue to a play normally without drama.

Brown and/or Brandon McManus, who are competing for the placekicking job, will have another opportunity to boot long PATs tomorrow night, when the Giants host the Pittsburgh Steelers in MetLife Stadium.

“Everybody wants to just sit there and continue to make it and that’s fine,” said Brown, who has missed just two of 343 extra point tries in his 11-year career. “I think it’s a good thing for the kicking game and kickers in general to really accept the challenge. We have gotten exceptionally good at our craft. We’ve done that through years of experience and years of understanding the dynamics of what makes the ball fly the way that it does and understanding our technique. Guys are good, it shouldn’t be any issue. But there will be issues, we’re all human. It’s definitely going to inject a little bit more excitement and intensity into that moment.”

“It’s a little bit different,” special teams coordinator Tom Quinn said. “You see after the touchdown everyone goes up to the two (yard line), then slides back. We’ve been doing it all camp, so it hasn’t been an issue.”

Head coaches might not like a rule change, because it would force them to make more decisions. What would happen, for example, if a team scores a touchdown late in the fourth quarter to pull within a point of its opponent on a rainy, windy day? Would a coach want to risk kicking a tying extra point in those conditions, knowing if he missed, he would likely lose? Or would he put the ball on the two-yard line and go for two points? What if the kicking team is penalized five yards for a false start? Would a coach opt to attempt a 38-yard extra point or a two-yard two-point conversion?

“That’s part of that injection of excitement and intensity in the moment,” Brown said. “All of those variables go into it. I believe it shakes it up, given the situation, the time of year, it changes how the coaches think about their options. A two-point conversion or PAT is based on how your kicker is doing at the time. If he’s on a roll, if he’s striking the ball well, if he’s missed that day, his frame of mind. I just think it brings a new dynamic to the game. Until now, PATs have been pretty much a sure thing.”

After running back Andre Williams scored the first touchdown of the NFL preseason with 49 seconds remaining in the first quarter last week, Brown trotted onto the field in Fawcett Stadium to attempt a 33-yard extra point.

“It was weird, but we had been preparing for that,” Brown said. “We haven’t kicked a field goal, even in practice, less than 33 yards. This is just the minimum at this point, which I think, in turn, will make guys more accurate from 50-plus. It’s going to make guys a lot better at what they do. Then you may see some more minor mistakes even when guys get up close.”

The league experiment has led to changes in how the Giants special teams have practiced this summer.

“Typically in like a team session, a field goal session, you would start with a PAT and then you would back up from there,” Brown said. “Now we start with a PAT from the 15 and back up from there. We don’t really kick anything inside a 33-yard field goal. You don’t kick a PAT and then kick a 33-yard field goal. You back up to 38, 43, 40, you just keep going the other way.”

The Giants will play two more games under the experimental spot. Beginning with preseason Week 4, extra points will again be spotted at the two-yard line, where they will stay for the rest of the season. But Brown likes the change of the longer kick and supports the league adopting it fulltime.

“It’s going to force guys to stay very mentally engaged the whole entire game,” he said. “It’s really going to throw a wrench in the way people have done things and bring a new dynamic to that play.”

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