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Quotes (10/6): Coach Brian Daboll, Asst. HC/OC Mike Kafka, DC Shane Bowen, STC Michael Ghobrial

Head coach Brian Daboll

Q: When you looked back at the film, what stood out more when you watched as far as how (quarterback) Jaxson (Dart) did and maybe those turnovers a little bit?

DABOLL: I thought Jaxson did a lot of good things in this game. But the turnovers, again, the ball gets stripped out of our hand. Two minute. We've got to do a good job. (Saints linebacker Demario) Davis made a nice play on (wide receiver Darius Slayton) Slay, gets taken out of our hand. (Running back Cam) Skattebo, defensive end crosses, attacks his face and gets it out. All going into the scoring zone. Hard to win. There are not many teams that have had an 0 and 5 turnover ratio and won a game in the last 25 years. Not much different than what I said last night.

Q: The two tight end set, is that something that you guys might look at going forward just given how well (tight end Daniel) Bellinger and (tight end) Theo (Johnson) played?

DABOLL: I thought they did a nice job. Two guys we've got a lot of trust in.

Q: With regard to Jaxson, you obviously knew of his quality in terms of his accountability in the work you did with him. But last night was the first moment he had and the way he reacted with such accountability, talking to his teammates. I'm just curious in your mind, how important is that? What is the importance of that, especially at his age, to have behaved this way in facing his first adversity?

DABOLL: I understand that. I'm not saying he was the same, but even after the first game he played and we won, he goes back to the things that he could have done better. I've got a tremendous amount of respect for the young man and how he's handled really everything on the field, off the field. It's no surprise that's the type of guy that he is. He's a pleasure to work with. I don't want to sell him short, and I know what he'll say, but I thought he did a lot of good things that gave us chances. We've got to take advantage of those chances.

Q: How does that resonate with the teammates? You've been around a million teams. How powerful can that be, especially coming from such a young guy?

DABOLL: I think they all respect Jaxson for his talents, one, and how he is. He's a pretty humble guy. They see how he works. They know he's a rookie. Again, there are going to be ups and downs. There's no young quarterback I'd rather have to work with than Jaxson.

Q: From a receiver standpoint, obviously (Jalin) Hyatt and (Beaux) Collins both had their mistakes yesterday. Do you have enough receivers here to get through the season behind Wan'Dale (Robinson) and Darius Slayton, or do changes have to be made to this roster?

DABOLL: I thought the distribution of the - whether you want to call them tight ends or receivers, doesn't really matter to me - was pretty even across the board with Theo and Belly and Wan'Dale and Slay. Those young guys are going to have to do a good job of making sure that they're on top of their things, which I know they work hard to do. Based on personnel groups and what we want to use, it could be more, could be less, but they all have got to be ready to go.

Q: What are you seeing from the secondary on defense? You have a lot of big investments there, whether draft picks or big contracts, and it doesn't quite seem like those guys are making plays. They're actually giving up quite a few big plays over the first five games. What are you seeing from your secondary?

DABOLL: I think they've been competitive. We gave up that big one, a big 87-yarder, which we'd like to have back. Other than that, I don't think there was an explosive play throughout the game yesterday. I thought they did a good job of hanging in there when we turn the ball over five times and give them opportunity after opportunity, to only come away with 13 points instead of more than that. It was a good thing for them.

Q: I think there's a lot of interest on the outside on the process of how you guys come up with your game day roster. Who's going to be up, who's going to be pulled up from the practice squad, empty spots, all that kind of stuff. Is that something you and (senior vice president and general manager) Joe (Schoen) discuss? You always say, 'We're going to talk about that' on Fridays. Who's we and how does that process work?

DABOLL: Joe, myself, coordinators, position coaches, we all discuss it. There's special teams involved. I'd say special teams is an important aspect, which I think our guys have done a good job with. What we can go with. Do we need to go with four? Do we need to go with three? Do we need to go with two? Can someone offer more position flexibility at a certain position? Those are all discussions that we have on a week-to-week basis.

Q: I know it's early on Monday, but you've got a quick turnaround. Anything on the status of Slayton for Thursday and (running back) Tyrone Tracy (Jr.) for Thursday?

DABOLL: I'm meeting with these guys at 11:15. I just got a text about it. Usually I meet with them after I talk with you guys and I'll go right up there after this.

Q: Aside from Darius Slayton, how did you guys come out of the game?

DABOLL: I'll find that out in about seven minutes.

Q: When you talk about the Eagles, have you already started working on them? Were you guys doing that last week as well knowing that it was a short game? How did you go about doing that?

DABOLL: The breakdown coaches were, but all our focus was on New Orleans. We've been meeting for a while this morning, watching some last night. But we've got a lot of work to catch up on and that's what we're doing right now.

Assistant head coach/offensive coordinator Mike Kafka

Q: At receiver, how stretched do you feel? Obviously, (wide receiver Jalin) Hyatt and (wide receiver Beaux) Collins made their mistakes yesterday. How stretched do you feel? That was the first game without Malik Nabers, and it looked like you guys had to pretty much revamp the offense to go with tight ends.

KAFKA: Yeah, I got a lot of confidence in our receiving group, in (wide receivers coach) Coach (Mike) Groh, and putting those guys out there and getting them prepared for the game. And I think based on how the game kind of declared itself, those guys were in the mix. We had some opportunities, just didn't capitalize on them.

Q: Mike, how hard is it to get guys up to speed, like guys who maybe – I think about your first year here when you guys were able to just bring guys in. (Pittsburgh Steelers' Wide receiver Isaiah) Hodgins comes to mind, guys who just came in and got up to speed and made an impact really quickly. Is that feasible, or is that a one-off that, like, you're just better off going with the guys in-house?

KAFKA: No, I think that's one of the things our coaching staff does that's the strength of ours is getting guys prepared and getting guys ready to go for the game. Whether you're on the roster or whether you're on the practice squad, those guys are dialed into it. They're in the installations, they're in the meetings, they're in the walkthroughs, and just trying to stay ahead of schedule.

Q: From a running back standpoint, what have you seen from (running back Cam) Skattebo these last couple days, and how much would getting (running back Tyrone) Tracy back kind of maybe go back to the way it was supposed to be with a backfield by committee?

KAFKA: Yeah, I've been really impressed over these last few weeks of what Skatt has done and how he's played. The energy, the toughness that he's brought, I really like that. Obviously, he'd love to have that fumble back yesterday, which I know is killing him, but I was very pleased with how he's been playing. He's been out there, he's been playing tough with his protection responsibilities, blocking. Then obviously as a runner, finishing runs downhill, the aggressiveness that he brings, I think that's been a great asset for our offense.

Q: The flea flicker, what'd you see?

KAFKA: I think it was, he had an opportunity, he had an opportunity there, we just didn't make it. I think those are the ones that you wish you had back. I certainly know (wide receiver Darius) Slayton wants that one back, and (quarterback) Jaxson (Dart) wants that one back as well, but we were being aggressive at that point on the field, at that point in the game, and we just didn't get it done. I think those guys are going to be, I know they were kicking themselves on the airplane, and they'll come back stronger because of it.

Q: Just going with the two tight end set you had last game, just kind of what did you see from that? Obviously, it worked pretty well, but just going forward, how confident are you with (tight end Daniel Bellinger) Belly and (tight end) Theo (Johnson) just being able to continue to execute in that role?

KAFKA: I have a lot of confidence in those guys. They're veteran guys that have done a really good job in really the run game, the pass game. The quarterbacks have a lot of confidence in them to do the right thing and, you know, kind of be where they're supposed to be, whether it's man or zone. So, I have a lot of confidence in those two guys, and even, you know, getting (tight end Chris) Manhertz in the mix or (tight end Thomas) Fidone, like that whole room is built really cool, and they all complement each other a little bit. So, I have a lot of confidence in those guys.

Q: I know it's often said, a tight end is a young quarterback's best friend, and you probably can relate to that. Just how much do you see that Dart-Theo connection these last two games working really well? Obviously, Dart has all three TDs to Theo.

KAFKA: Jaxson's had some opportunities for Theo, and Theo's capitalized on them. I think that's been the biggest part is when the ball has come his way, Theo has made those contested catches, made those catches for us. He made a helluva catch last week in the red zone on the third down. The ball was a little bit behind him, but he made a nice strong catch. So, I think as you just build more confidence with the guys, the more reps you get, whether it's the tight ends or any of the other position groups, the more reps you get and the more time on task with these guys, the more comfort you'll have.

Q: With regard to Jaxson, obviously you knew of this quality in him prior to yesterday, but yesterday was his first real bit of adversity, and he was highly accountable in the locker room and in front of us. I'm curious as to what's your reaction when you see such a young guy kind of getting it that quickly and what's the importance to that, to the rest of the room?

KAFKA: I think it's important when the quarterback, the leader of the room, is taking accountability and ownership. At the end of the day, like I always say, this is an 11-man operation on offense. It's never just one person. Certainly, the quarterback, they're going to get the praise when everything's going well. They're also going to get kind of the brunt of it when it's not going so well. And I appreciate that from our quarterback room. I appreciate that from Jaxson taking accountability. But, us as coaches, we're arm in arm with these guys, right? We're arm in arm with them, whether we win, whether we lose. And I think we're all in this thing together. And then when we're on the field, that's an 11-man operation. Everyone's accountable to one another and their assignments and their execution. When you go and you execute at a high level, then you get the results you want. When you don't, then you typically don't get the results that you're looking to get. So, I think as a group, we're working through it. You know, obviously it's a tough game, but it's a short turnaround now. So, we've got a division rival coming up. We've got a game in a couple of days here. We've got to hit the reset button, get back refocused, and get our bodies back and healthy and refocused in on the task at hand.

Q: There will be a lot of eyes on him to see how he bounces back, even though obviously it was hardly only him yesterday. How do you see him reacting given what you know about his makeup, particularly as you mentioned, on such a short week?

KAFKA: Yeah, I'm excited for the response, not from just Jaxson, but from the entire offense. I think that's going to be the exciting part again on a short week. So, I'm looking forward to seeing how these guys respond. They come in tomorrow with the right firm mind. I know they will. We got the right guys in there and I'm excited to see them respond.

Q: How much different were things for you and the offense without Malik? To have that sort of guy that you know you can go to at all times. How much did it change stuff for you process wise and play calling?

KAFKA: We talked about this a little bit last week with Malik and we're hoping and wishing for him a speedy recovery, but the guys that we have, we have a lot of confidence in. Whether it's Slay, Jalin, (wide receiver) Wan'Dale (Robinson), Beaux, I mean, it can just go up and down the list of the guys that are out there. They have opportunities, but we've just got to capitalize on them. I know we had those two ones with Slay. I know he's beating himself up about it. That's the kind of competitor he is and he holds himself to a high standard, just like we do here. So, I don't want to single just Slay out, everyone had a piece of it. Every single group had their one or two plays that we could have done better. Same for me as a play caller, I could have done better as well. So, it's full accountability. We're arm and arm. We'll get it cleaned up. We'll get it fixed. Then, we'll get back on track and put together a good game plan and a good week of work today and tomorrow.

Q: What about for Jaxson? For a quarterback, that you don't have that guy that - Malik is a very, very high-level player that you don't have that guy to consider, you know what we need to play here, I'm going to go to this guy.

KAFKA: I don't want to speak for Jaxson, but I have a lot of confidence in our skill group. I have a lot of confidence in our tight end room and our running back room and our o-line room. So, everyone's just got to step up. Regardless of what happens, whether it's an injury or whether it's just the game or the part of the season, everyone needs to continue to step up and make their plays and go out and execute. We talk about it on offense all the time. It's an 11-man operation. So, if there's one piece that's off, then typically the play is not going to go really the way you want it. So, we've got to do a better job of just getting on the same page, going out there and executing. And I think we will, because we've got a lot of good players and a lot of good coaches on this group.

Q: What did you make of the five straight turnovers? Like when you went back and looked at it, how do you make sense of that?

KAFKA: It's certainly an unfortunate series of events. I don't think I've ever been around that, that it's happened, but it did. We got to get it cleaned up. We have to be really good and disciplined with our ball security. We have to be really good and disciplined with the decision-making part of it. As a coach, that's something I take great pride in, being able to detail that stuff out. So, whether it's the drills, whether it's the film work, we've got to continue to ramp that up and put our guys in those positions that we can see it.

Q: When you have a guy like Jaxson, teams now have had a chance to see him. How much do you expect them to try to take away his legs and his ability to sort of improvise on the fly?

KAFKA: I'm certain there'll be some sort of element as he gets more time on task and more and more games under his belt. There'll be some kind of adjustments, things that they could possibly do, whether it's certain fronts or certain coverages I've seen in my past, we've seen in our past. We have to have those adjustments ready to go if they do jump into it. And that's kind of where we're at right now. It's a short week with the Eagles. First off, getting together with their scheme and what they're doing, what their personnel is and how they're kind of setting things up over these last few weeks. Now putting our stuff together with how we made it out of last week with our players and our coaches and just get everyone on the same page. So, we got a long way to go. We still have a couple of days here to get ready and prepped. I'm confident, I'm ready to go and get our guys back in the building

Defensive coordinator Shane Bowen

Q: From your secondary, what are you seeing? It seems like I asked you last week about the big runs that have leaked out through the secondary, and I totally understand that's an all-11 thing, but not getting them on the ground in the second level, and then obviously the big pass play behind your safeties yesterday. It's an area you guys have a lot of money and draft picks invested in. What are you seeing from that back end?

BOWEN: Yeah, obviously we want the big one back. We can't give that up, especially backed up there with how the game was going. I felt like that swung the momentum right there for sure. We've got to do a good job of understanding our leverage as that thing gets down the field and where our help is and making sure we had two guys back there, and he broke really across our leverage, and we were unable to get him down. Other than that play, I thought there were some good things. We've got to eliminate the penalties, the grabbing, the DPI negated an interception for us early. Whether we're slipping or not, we've got to do a good job not coming into contact with those guys on those underthrown tipped passes, being able to find the football. I think that was a potentially big-time play for us that we weren't able to get and extended the drive. Just continuing to work on not panicking down the field. I think these guys feel themselves, and they're actually in decent position as we're going, their own body, and then just as it keeps getting extended, the panic sets in a little bit, and we've got to be able to find some comfort when we're on body and be able to locate the football and not foul.

Q: The rotation you do with (cornerback Cor'Dale) Flott and (cornerback Deonte)Banks, is that something you're committed to all season or is that something that gets reviewed week by week? Because to my untrained eye, it seems like Flott's outplaying him, so it seems like you're getting worse by taking Flott off the field.

BOWEN: Yeah, it's a week-to-week thing. We talk about it every week about how we're going to go in and handle some of the stuff, and based on skill sets, what we're trying to ask these guys to do potentially, but it's going to be an ongoing evaluation for us. And again, I think they both have done some good things. It's just continuing with the consistency play-in and play-out, and really that goes for everybody, all 11 guys just being able to be more consistent and make the plays when they're there and ultimately not hurt us in certain situations either.

Q: Do you have the autonomy to decide who plays based on the game plan or the scheme or practice performance, or do you have to consider things like draft status and money invested and stuff when you're divvying up playing time?

BOWEN: No, like, these players earn what they get when they get here. That's how it is. That's how it's been. I think us as a staff, it's something we discuss day in and day out, just how guys are performing, where they're at, going into a game plan, just what we think is best in terms of match-ups and some of those other things. But it's about finding the guys that can put us in the best position to win.

Q: Just to follow up on that for a second, why even do the rotation? Like, what do you see that makes you guys want to continue with that?

BOWEN: Yeah, I think, like the ability of Tae, obviously, when he's able to get his hands on guys and challenge guys, he's been able to be tight. There's clips where he's been able to be tight, and he's got some pass breakup for us this year as we've went. I think that plays into it a little bit. I think Flott has done a really good job. I do. I think Flott has developed immensely here this offseason. He's earned the right to play as well. I think both those guys, with how they've worked, there's been improvement. It's something we'll continue to evaluate with every player, not just those two positions, but every player, making sure we've got the right 11 out there and in the situations that we need them out there, and hopefully all these guys can, when their numbers call, they can show up and make plays for us.

Q: Deonte has been flagged four times already in limited playing time. At what point is that too much for you guys to say, you know what, it's counterproductive?

BOWEN: Yeah, I mean, again, I think that's something we've got to look at and we've got to continue to evaluate, and I see your point with that. I think, again, no different than with (cornerback) Dru (Phillips). We're working through some things, doing our best to teach them these techniques, these fundamentals, and hopefully we can work out the kinks and become a little bit more consistent and not have those plays that put us in harm's way.

Q: Then with (defensive lineman) Dex (Lawrence) , he had a limited workload. How much of that was pre-planned, and was it just him not having energy, he's just coming off the illness, and do you expect that to be the case for Thursday?

BOWEN: Yeah, he was sick last week. Obviously, you guys didn't see him out at practice, so limited work for him throughout the week. We were able to get him back in, get adjusted, get going on Friday, and really for us, it was just trying to manage him where we could have him in the fourth quarter, where we weren't wearing him out just with not doing anything and still fighting the sickness. I give credit to him to go out there and do what he did, still battling that stuff. So we'll see how he feels moving forward here.

Q: You say he's still battling. You think it might be something he has to deal with again this week?

BOWEN: I think he's turned the corner.

Q: So, to my untrained eye, it looks like sometimes you have defensive backs that are getting turned around, not looking for the ball. I'm just wondering, is that more of a product of the fundamentals lacking or poor angles, or is it a combination? What do you see in that?

BOWEN: Yeah, I think the ones that you saw yesterday, a lot of those guys, we were in pretty good position in terms of being on body, connected to the receiver. I think the biggest thing is we've got to make sure we're getting our head around and locating the football when we are in that position. It's one thing to not be on body and you're trailing and you're trying to catch up. It's hard to look for the ball at that point because you're putting your head down trying to run to get back on body. So, I think the continued fundamentals of dealing when I'm in the position, when the receiver's eyes go back, if I've got to be able to play their hands, I've got to be able to play their hands, as well. Just getting comfortable in those positions down the field as you're running full speed and making sure we're able to get our eyes back and locate the football. Because, again, that's the one saving grace we have as defenders, is if there is contact, as long as we're looking back and trying to play for the football, that's where we get a little bit of saving grace from these officials.

Q: (Defensive lineman) Darius Alexander was a healthy scratch week one and now it seems like he's making some plays. What do you see from his kind of rapid development and do you attribute any of that to maybe lighting a fire under him?

BOWEN: Yeah, I think for anybody, not being out there is probably the best motivator that we have. To his credit, he has worked his butt off and we've seen it in practice week in and week out, the development, the growth, using his skill set, using his length. Got a lot of trust in him right now with how he's playing. He's been doing it consistently. It hasn't been a flash in the pan, one-time thing. So, like the trajectory he's going. Credit to him, he's worked and he's overcame where he was early on in the year and he's taken strides and I think he's improving every week.

Q: Why do you think you guys weren't able to duplicate the kind of pass rush stats that you had last week? It seemed like maybe the whole focus of (New Orleans Saints' quarterback Spencer) Rattler was just getting the ball out really quick. Is that something you noticed?

BOWEN: Yeah, it was getting out fast. I do think we had some rushes there, especially on the interior where we were getting some push and DA (Alexander) early in the game where he hit him as he was releasing the ball and we got the penalty. I think (defensive lineman) D.J. (Davidson) had one, I think (defensive lineman Rakeem Nuñez-Roches) Nacho had one. But again, the ball was out relatively quickly. We've got to do a good job of doing what we can to stay tight and see if we can get him to hold it at times to buy some time for the pass rush. I think that plays into it. And then the ability when you're going against offenses like that, to make sure we get our hands up, right? There's opportunities there for tipped passes. We had a couple, but tipped passes that hopefully get bounced up in the air and we can find ways to turn the ball over that way.

Q: As you flip it forward here, I know you have no time to go from one game to the other, right? But when you see the Eagles and their receivers are kind of chirping that they're not getting the ball much, is that something that is in the back of your mind that they might try to force feed these guys as we get towards Thursday?

BOWEN: Yeah. I mean, I think they have a good idea who they are and all the different playmakers. They've got a lot of players they got to distribute to on that side of the ball. I think that's just one thing for us. We got to make sure we do a good job, obviously, with the run game, continue what we did yesterday for the most part. I think it starts there. Obviously, with (running back) Saquon (Barkley), he's going to be juiced up, ready to go Thursday night here. So, it starts there, and then we got to make sure we do a good job handling these playmakers on the perimeter. They're going to find ways to get them the ball. They always do. They're going to manufacture it how they need to. But first and foremost, we got to be good on hopefully these first and second downs and create some more third and longs. That's where yesterday I felt like we kind of let them off the hook a little bit. We lived in third and three, I think seven snaps of third and three or less, and it gets hard. So, we got to make sure we do a good job with all those guys on that side of the ball on first and second down.

Q: You're talking a little bit about first and second down. The run stats yesterday were a lot better. I think the Saints averaged less than three yards per carry. Did you feel like you made some progress there in the run defense, and if so, why?

BOWEN: Yeah, absolutely. I was pleased with how our guys played the run. I know there were a couple loose ones there. I think we missed a few tackles that we would like to have back on some of those as well. But overall, I thought we played physical. I thought the guys were trying to change the math in terms of not just giving themselves up, trying to take on two at times. Really just building the wall up front. The edge guys were firm. So overall, I do. I feel like it improved yesterday, and it's another tall task this week. We're going to have to be ready to go, and it's going to take the same type of effort for us to slow them down.

Special teams coordinator Michael Ghobrial

Q: You talked about this a little bit last week, but I wanted to follow up on something regarding the decision to have (punter) Jamie (Gillan) kick off. Both (kicker) Jude (McAtamney) and Jamie have strong legs and I'm wondering what gives Jamie the edge on kickoffs? I know he has that that rugby background. I think Jude played soccer. But I'm curious, what gives Jamie the advantage?

GHOBRIAL: I don't think it's necessarily an advantage over the other person. I've said this before, Jamie's flex to be able to do kickoffs I think gives him a lot of value. Sometimes it's to get him in the flow of the game, not knowing when we're going to be punting. Wanting him to stay active I think is one thing. But aside from that, I thought Jamie did one heck of a job kicking off. He showed the ability to place the ball where we needed to and that's something that obviously if he gives us the strongest inclination that he's going to be the best kickoff guy, then that's a guy that we'll continuously use. But like I said before, all those guys have the ability to paint the field, which is a huge advantage for our specialists to do.

Q: How much does directional kicking factor into the equation?

GHOBRIAL: A lot. It does because your coverage has to tie into that. Wherever the ball location is, your coverage has to follow suit. So, whether you have certain patterns going on or whether you're trying to kick it in between the hashes, those are all things that deal with the whole kickoff defense. Kick location is an important part of them doing it.

Q: One of the positive areas yesterday, aside from Jamie, was your kickoff return. You had the almost-big one from (cornerback Deonte Banks) Tae. You finally got a team to kick a couple of balls to (wide receiver) Gunner (Olszewski) and he did well. Can you just talk a little bit about how they did and the development of your kickoff return?

GHOBRIAL: I think from the start of training camp, that was one thing that we dove deep into. The technique standpoint, the schematic standpoint, and that's something that's been an ongoing process to put us in the best position. I've said it before, kickoff return is the first play of offense. We wanted to have a really strong position from a kickoff return standpoint to give the ball back to our offense with advantage in the field position. It's a credit to all those guys out that are blocking, number one. Then number two, the ball skills of those returners, just understanding how they set up their blocks, understanding that catch mechanics are critical to have efficient returns. Those are all things that deal with the success of the whole unit. Obviously, Gunner has done a nice job. Tae has done a nice job in the past couple of games. Other guys that have been back there as well have definitely owned it. I'm really pleased with where our kickoff return unit is right now, and hopefully we can keep that moving forward.

Q: Banks has looked pretty comfortable with the ball in his hands on the kick returns, but there was one yesterday where I guess it must have been Gunner running it, and Banks didn't seem to know who to block or didn't seem to give a great effort blocking. What do you chalk that up to?

GHOBRIAL: I don't think it was a lack of effort by any means. Part of the development of the returner position is also the development of the off-returner position, because you don't know if you're guaranteed to get the ball. Sometimes that process of him learning the certain tracks to run when they're going to block, the urgency it takes to get there, that's all a feel thing. With time on task, I think that will continuously develop. The fact of the matter is when those reps are on tape, you have the ability to show them, okay, so this is where we got put in a compromised position, this is how we get better. Knowing Tae, he's going to fix it right away. He's a very headsy kid and wants to do right, and he's loved the opportunity to be back there. So, we'll stay connected to the fundamentals it takes for him to have success on both being a returner and being an off-returner.

Q: You made it seem Thursday like the kicking competition was open. So what did you see last week in practice to stick with Jude? The first week you made it sound like it was a chemistry of the unit thing because Jude had been here a while. Was it still that, or did he just perform better than (kicker Younghoe) Koo?

GHOBRIAL: To that point, I thought the first week, the consistency with the operation, and Jude had done a nice job in the preseason, I thought that was telling for his first game into it. Then going into week two, I thought Jude kicked the ball well. It was nothing that Koo didn't do. I thought Jude just had a good week of practice, and the fact of the matter is, having a good week of practice, having a good game before, you kind of want to have a little bit of continuity with it. So, I thought Jude did a nice job for us on Sunday, and that's something we'll continue to stay connected to. Whoever gives us the best opportunity to score points, I think that'll continuously always be a competition. I think it ultimately elevates both the positions. It reveals a lot of things to you throughout the week of what are going to be the strengths, what are going to be the challenges, obviously knowing the environment, those are all things that will play into it.

Q: I know it's a quick turnaround. One question is about the Saints and one is about the Eagles. When you look at their specials, as you have so far throughout the season, what pops from Philly's specials?

GHOBRIAL: Yeah, it is a quick turnaround. That's one thing about these Thursday night games is you've got to be in tune to how quickly can you focus on the next opponent. I think (Eagles special teams coordinator) Michael Clay does a great job in terms of getting his guys to play hard. Philly, in terms of the returners, between (Eagles wide receiver Jahan) Dotson, between (Eagles running back Will) Shipley, between (Eagles running back/kick returner Tank) Bigsby, those guys all have great run skill, good elite top end speed. Then they have core players that challenge you with their physicality, challenge you with their speed. Those are all things from a personnel standpoint that start on their team. We've got to know where all those guys are at. It's going to force us to win with fundamentals this game, like any other game. Certainly a lot of study that has to go into it in a few amount of days.

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